EDIT: Damn bastard already traded it for a pedalboard, I was waiting for him to give me more info and pictures and then I saw a post asking for the bass, the owner answered and said he already exchanged it for a pedalboard, A guy is selling me this 'Diamond series c-4', but the pick ups don't look anything like the ones in pictures from schecter site, also the 'diamond series' stamp is strange, and the pick ups have no text on them and I haven't found an image of a schecter bass with text less pick ups. If it is legitimate, how much would it cost new? The guy is selling it for $200 (live en Mexico and the real price is $150, but the economy impact on instruments hasn't really changed even if a few years ago those $150 were actually $200). I remember buying a used Schecter, loving it, but wondering if it were forged. Then I realized that it would be silly to forge a Schecter. In this case, I wouldn't worry about it being a forgery.
Those 'Diamond Series' truss rod covers are pretty common. I found a few pictures of them through a Google Image search ツ葉he model is most likely a C-4 XXX. Either way, you should ask the person for the serial number. It should be on the back of the headstock. That way, you can at least see how old it is. The first two numbers in the serial number should indicate the year of manufacture. You can check the 'vault' on Schecter's website for product catalogues from that year and find out more.
Also, ask them for better pictures of the pickups just so you know what they are. This is all about finding out if you'll like playing (and listening to) the damned thing. (; I think $200 is a good price, but I would probably get him to come down to $175. It's the economy! Is not actually $200, that was an estimate I did, but based on a not so screwed mexican coin.
The actual price would be $150.75 (damn!!!!!!!, 4 years ago it'd have been more than 180), and he was originally selling it at $218. I said $200 because the value and costs pretty much stay the same as when 10 mexican pesos = 1 USD, but everything is also more expensive in Mexico, after the USD-mexican peso conversion, add taxes and a higher price just for living in Mexico (sucks that we are a third world country and we get everything insanely overpriced). I asked if it's fake because printing a fake logo is really easy and here is pretty common for people to have Fender or Gibson on their Squier or epiphone guitars, most of them do warn that is a squier with a Fender stamp. Edit: in short words, I'd pay the $150 only if its value is $270 and up, the bass was first being sold for $218. Edit 2: I might not make a lot of sense and can sound (read) a bit too paranoid or noob, but it would be my first bass, and I don't want to regret anything, specially an instrument.
I know it sounds weird today, but Schecter was a big name in the late 70s and 80s, like Boogie Bodies, when there weren't a ton of companies making Fender clones. Schecters from this time are held in very high regard by people that know. I've collected the stuff for years and most of the 80s stuff are fakes. On their old website they had a whole section on fake Schecters. I'm not saying that there are more faked Schecters than Fenders, but you really have to be careful buying an old US Schecter compared to other brands.
I'm not positive if this is correct, but I'm pretty sure that Samick was labeling their basses as Schecters for while and that's where most of the forgeries came from.
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They are here to help. Did they have PT series running in the 80s or 90s that looked just like the original ones? From what I've seen of the 'genesis' and 'pt' series, the headstocks are totally different, while this one looks more like the originals, apart from the tuners.
Another thing that looks slightly off is the Schecter logo. I don't remember seeing any on these guitars with the logos filled in white. I thought they were always clear, but I could me mistaken. Jessie's ghost, it does look like a great guitar! I've been looking for one like this for awhile now, but I'd like to have one of the original California ones if possible.
Funkfingers, thanks! I'm glad to be here. Again, I might be mistaken, but I believe some of the original guitars didn't come with serial numbers? I'll have to go back and confirm whether or not there's one. As ever, the only real test is to go and play the thing through a familiar amplifier. Looking at the headstock pics, the plugged machehead guide screw holes are in approximately the correct position for either aftermarket Schaller M6 or Gotoh sealed gear 'heads. If somebody tried to sell me that neck as being Fender (Japan), I would probably accept his or her word for it.
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The string clamp screw holes are in approximately the correct position for a mid Eighties Fender System One series guitar. (PROBLEM - I only recall the Tele versions being offered with rosewood fingerboards.) None of what I write matters. Let your ears and fingers be the judge.
You know, I've been learning about early Schecter stuff, and have wondered what it is about the Texas stuff that is so bad? I know they were not made by the original crew of people, but I'm guessing some of the bad rep. Is coming fron the hardware designed in Texas. Does your guitar have a 'vintage' style 6 bolt trem?
Or is it one of the Schecter labeled trem's with the fine tuners? Like on this one: I wonder if body and neck wood was sourced from the same place for the early ones and those from the Texas era? As you say, I'm sure your's is a mighty fine axe - neat having the low serial number, too. I'm glad this came up. Is the serial number on the neck plate?
Mine is and its 90716. Anyone kow whether it can be dated by this? Its got the strat headstock, and just the regular block letter shecter logo, and it does have the vintage six point trem, an ebony board with real MOP dots that I just love, and a tone pot that pulls out, though I have yet to fgure out what it does. I think it MAY engage the center p/u when the switch is in hte middle position. Its also got staggered slotted tuners.
Is there a way to tell if the pups are Monstertone? Thanks for starting the thread! My Schecter Mercury which I bought in 1987 is a 1985 model in a bark blue, maple neck with strat clone headstock, white guard, chrome knobs. It had the fine tuners and locking nut, both of which I took off years ago and no longer have. It now has a small hole where the fine tuners were exposed. Does this model have the Monster pickups? The bottom tone control (nearest to jack) is a boost-like roll off/on type.
I wonder if anyone can tell me what it might be worth, even though it's stripped of some hardware. I have never seen one like it and believe me i looked all over the net.
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It seems similar to some described here before but not exactly. It has always been a killer guitar.
Information of Q: I would like to order/buy a Prince ´Cloud´ guitar. How much are they, and how do I order one? A: The Prince ´Cloud´ guitars (and the ´Symbol´ guitar, as well) are made under an exclusive agreement with Prince and Paisley Park, and are only available through Prince´s website and at his live shows. We do not offer them in any form anywhere else, and, per our agreement, will not use any of their features in the construction of other guitars! Q: Can I order a guitar/bass directly from Schecter?
A: We do not do any direct sales, all of our guitars/basses must be purchased through an authorized Schecter dealer. Any authorized dealer can order any of our models for you. A complete list of authorized dealers is available on our website click on Find A Dealer. Q: I would like to buy a Diamond Series guitar, but would like to change some features and customize it. How much would it cost? A: We do not customize our Diamond Series guitars in any way; they are only available with the existing specifications, including (but not limited to) color options, inlay, and hardware.
Our Schecter Custom Shop can build just about any style guitar or bass you can imagine. Examples can be viewed on our website. Delivery time on a custom made Schecter is 8 months. Q: Where are Schecter guitars and basses made? A: Our Diamond Series guitars and basses are manufactured in South Korea(unless otherwise specified on the guitar), and 100% set up in the USA, in our Burbank, CA facility. Our Custom Shop guitars and basses are 100% handmade here in Burbank. Q: I would like to order a Custom Shop guitar/bass.
What is the best way to do this? A: Please visit our Custom Shop web site´s Products section, and click on ´Custom Order Form´. Here, you can ´build´ your dream guitar/bass and email or fax us the specifications. We will email or fax back a list price and ETA (usually about 6 months). Ultimately, you must order through an authorized Schecter dealer; by filling out an order form first, you can walk into your local dealer with most of the information you need. Please note that our Custom Shop instruments are HANDMADE to order.
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They take a little longer, but they are worth the wait! Q: What are DUNCAN DESIGN humbuckers?
A: Duncan Design pickups are manufactured by an outside factory to the exact specifications and manufacturing methods of Seymour Duncan. Unlike some ´import´ pickups, the DUNCAN DESIGN pickups use Alnico magnets (for warmth & tone) and are 4-conductor, which means that ANY Diamond Series guitar can have an ´after-market´ mini toggle or push-pull pot added for ´splitting´ the humbucker for a cleaner, single-coil tone. Note: If this is done by a qualified repair technician, it will NOT void your warranty! As far as the sound, let your ears decide, but the models we use are 95% identical to the JB and ´59! Q: What brand & gauge strings are used on the Diamond Series? A: All Diamond Series electric guitars come factory installed with GHS Boomers. Our 7-String guitars electrics use a.056 as the low ´B´.
Please see our special strings (link) for A-5X, C-5X, SCORPION and SCORPION BASS gauges and specs. Extended Scale guitars: We use GHS Boomers gauges 13,17,28w,38,48,62. Hellcat VI: Setup with SIT Power Steel stainless gauges 25,35,45,55,75,95. These strings, as well as several 7-String sets, are available from your authorized Schecter dealer. If you cannot find them, contact us!
Basses: Four strings: We install Elixer Nanoweb four string Med XLong scale sets which are.045,.065,.085, and.105. (#14087) Five strings: We install Elixer Nanoweb five string Med XLong scale sets which are.045,.065,.085,.105, and.130TW.(Taper Wound) (#14304) Q: How can I date my old (pre ´89) Schecter guitar? A: Due to Schecter´s beginnings as a ´replacement part´ company, there are many bootlegged Schecter guitars on the market. The company is now and has been owned by a new owner since 1989 (when the company was moved back to California from Dallas, Texas). These guitars can be dated by serial number.
We would be happy to attempt to date your instrument, but you will need to mail photos and a description to us. Please make sure to photograph the headstock (front & back) and the neck plate. No guarantee, but we will try! Q: I did not receive a warranty card or manual with my new Schecter guitar.
How do I get these? Can I register my guitar online?
A: All the information for each of our guitars and basses (including schematics) is listed on our website. We send a warranty card out with every instrument, but it doesn´t always get to you, the end-user; this is why we stopped sending out manuals! As long as you retain your original sales receipt with the purchase date and serial number on it, you are covered by our Limited Lifetime Warranty. We do not offer online registration, as a means of protecting our customers. Q: Is Schecter Guitar affiliated with ESP guitars??
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